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Slap Shot 2: Breaking the Ice was meant as a sequel to George Roy Hill's Slap Shot (1977), which starred Paul Newman and seems to be a cult movie among hockey fans. Slap Shot 2 takes place 25 years after, with again the Hanson Brothers, as part of a losing hockey team in a minor league, still playing their "old time hockey". The team is given a new female coach when it’s bought by a family entertainment corporation ("Better America"!) to play and lose against a younger and "clean" team.

Callum plays Palmberg, the sex obsessed alternate captain.



The IMDB page: Slap Shot 2 (2002)

It is Steve Boyum’s 4th movie about hockey. He also committed a Timecop 2, directed several TV series episodes (Smallville, Bionic Woman…) and performed a lot of stunts.

C6D-wise, Jessica Steen, the female lead, played Maggie, Fraser’s sister, in dueSouth.

David Paetkau aka Gordie Miller currently plays Sam Braddock in Flashpoint along Hugh Dillon.

Andrew McIlroy as Dexter Howell, the gay coach and choregrapher of the Ice Breakers team, is also Jacob Cantrell, Sagittaron's current representative to the Quorum of Twelve, in Battlestar Galactica.

David Lewis, playing Rick Cooper, Claremont’s jack of all trades, appeared in many TV series, and has played along Callum in Code Name: The Cleaner, The Butterfly Effect and Falling from the Sky: Flight 174



Cast / Characters:

Stephen Baldwin
Jessica Steen
Gary Busey
David Hemmings
David Paetkau
Callum Keith Rennie
Jonathan Scarfe
Jody Racicot
Steve Carlson
David Hanson
Jeff Carlson
Andrew McIlroy
David Lewis

Sean Linden
Jessie Dage
Richmond Claremont
Martin Fox
Gordie Miller
Palmberg
Skipper Day
Gasmer
Steve Hanson
Jack Hanson
Jeff Hanson
Dexter Howell
Rick Cooper



Year: 2002

Runtime: 98 min.

Country: USA

IMDB rating: 4.4/10 (1,142 votes)

Genre: Comedy / Sports

Keywords: Puck Bunnies | Hockey | Sequel | Violence

MPAA rating: Rated R for strong language and some sexuality



Awards:

Slap Shot 2 won 2003 DVD Premiere Award for Best Supporting Actor (The Hanson Brothers). And was nominated in 8 categories, same awards (meant to "recognize creative achievement in programming that makes its debut on video.")



There are 28 user comments on the IMDB page. Here’s one:

avoid this movie: If you like the original "Slapshot," good acting and a good plot, rent anything else other than this travesty of film-making. However, if you do enjoy bad VD jokes, monotone Steven Baldwin acting and a storyline a kindergartner could poke holes into, then by all means rent "Slapshot 2: Breaking the Ice." Seriously, the only good thing about this film was seeing the original Hanson Brothers reprise their roles, which was not nearly enough to save it. A life-size cardboard cutout of Paul Newman has more acting talent than Steven Baldwin. And I'm being generous. Only if you have a severely morbid sense of curiosity would I suggest you watch this film.

2 comments mention Callum (extracts):

Callum Keith Rennie (an astounded (sic) Canadian actor - who probably signed for this film because of the first ones status and a film about ice hockey) is slightly wasted in this movie. We can see him in other roles that show of his natural talents as a brilliant actor, but playing Palmberg, it was enough to keep watching and laughing.

That said, this movie isn't really bad, but it's nothing to get excited about either. Jessica Steen and Callum Keith Rennie are utterly wasted. The film rests on the rather inadequate shoulders of Stephen Baldwin, who, in addition to having gone somewhat to seed in the last few years, seems unable to portray any emotional depth.

Comments generally express disappointment compared to the original movie. They range from to avoid to best movie ever with a majority of Boooooooo. They all can be found here



Callum Quotient: 30%




Pictures:











from Cap it! Before I die of waitin’!




The trailer is available from the movie official site or from You Tube




Quotes:


  • "There’s never been a movie like Slapshot and there will never be another" (from Slapshot (1977) trailer)

  • "- I like your hair.
    - Thanks.
    - Is that your natural colour?
    - Yes.
    - Because a lot of redheads say it's their natural colour, but it's not.
    - Believe me, it's real.
    - Why don't you prove it to me?
    - How?
    - Why don't you let me look down below, see if the carpet matches the drapes?
    - You're a pig.
    - What?.. Scientific… Dyke."
    Palmberg and a redheaded girl in a bar

  • "- I'm Jessie Dage, your new coach.
    - New coach?
    - A coach with no dick?"

  • "- Palmberg, how many cards?
    - No, no. I'm sitting pretty, suckin' on Lady Luck's titty."

  • "- I'm gonna fucking kill that guy.
    - Kids seem to love that clown Palmberg. What a pratfall he took. They love to see...
    - 50 bucks if you do it again.
    - 60.
    - You're on.
    - OK.
    - Play coming back now… Palmberg back on his feet… Play going by… And whoa! Down he goes again! All that's missing from the Super Chiefs are the clown shoes and funny noses.
    - See? They love you."
    Palmberg and Linden, plus commnentator, after Palmberg’s fallen on his ass

  • "Palmberg ridin' high. He's just scored. He's lovin' it. Looks like Palmberg just scored again in the corner. Those girls gave Palmberg a high stick. They gave me one."
    Commentator, after Palmberg has scored and some fans show him their tits

  • "As my ballet teacher used to say, 'It ain't over till the swan takes it in the ass.'"
    Jessie encouraging the Chiefs to play old time hockey






Trivia:

  • A slapshot (or slap shot) in ice hockey is the hardest shot.

  • This movie was inspired by Fox's glowing puck, which attempted to add glitz and glamour to the game at the expense of the game itself.

  • Dave Babych who was in the movie played 19 years in the NHL and he's the brother of Wayne Babych.

  • The Hanson Brother characters inspired Canadian rock / punk band Nomeansno to create an alter-ego band, The Hanson Brothers, playing Ramones-style songs about girls, hockey and beer, mentioned by Callum in an interview.

  • There is a Slap Shot 3: the Junior League under way, again starring the Hanson Brothers: they are coaches now, and they have their kids as part of the hockey team.

  • The word "fuck" is used 85 times in the film, thirteen times less than the original Slap Shot.

  • Palmberg’s number is 27.

  • It has been said that due to Callum's decision to sign on to Slap Shot 2 and because of production delays in Men With Brooms, he was unable to be in Paul Gross' movie. Paul Gross wanted him to play Peter Outerbridge's character, Lennox and had confirmed his participation on July 2000 AOL Canada Live chat: "Callum has a spot on the team, his curling rocks are polished up and he is, according to well placed sources (him) already practicing."




Interesting scenes:

  • Jessie punching Linden when he comes on to her the first day they meet

  • Jessie walking on Palmberg fucking a girl in a shower (probably the least sexy of all sexy scenes Callum has played)

  • The hockey games, in a general way

  • Palmberg after he falls down the first time, you can see him winning an inner battle between kickin’em in the head and accepting to play the clown’s part, all in a few seconds





Polls

- Do I want to show this to my parents / friends / co-workers?


- Palmberg


This way to the polls





Does he die?
You really want to know? Are you sure? Really sure? Well, then. (highlight to read)

::Nope::




Articles/interviews about the movie

I glanced through the guide on my television at all the movies scheduled to play on AMC over the next few days... How did it come to this? Is there really that much of a television demand for Slap Shot 2? It has a Baldwin brother in it for Pete’s sake. This channel must be stopped. It must be destroyed, erased from existence. Or maybe, someone will get smart and fire AMC’s program director.

From here.





Reviews at Rotten Tomatoes (average rating: 3.6/10)

- Not even the Hanson Brothers can save it
- I was sent a copy of this film to review on DVD. For free. I still want my money back.
- How do you spell cliché?
- Take your pick of disappointing sequels and I’ll bet you won’t find one that approaches the utter stupidity of Slap Shot 2.
- Horrible




REEL WEST - Hockey Schtick August - September 2001
(Cut for length, but the whole article is worth reading.)

"Show me what you’ve got." That was the order given by Paul Newman to three of his Charleston Chiefs players in the 1977 film Slap Shot. Minutes later, the three players, known collectively as the Hanson Brothers, were out on the ice beating up the opposing team and creating a mayhem that reached its crescendo when one of the "brothers" whacked every player on the opponents’ bench with his stick.

Almost a quarter of a century later, the Hanson Brothers are still playing hockey. In Slap Shot II: Breaking the Ice, which was recently filmed in rinks throughout the Vancouver area, the players who played the Hansons - Dave Hanson, Jeff Carlson and Steve Carlson - men who played a total of 85 National Hockey League games, accumulating a total of 22 goals (21 by Steve Carlson), have graduated, in stage parlance, from being spear carriers (literally) to co-stars of the movie. "We never saw ourselves as actors, " says Steve Carlson, outside one of the sets, a South Surrey arena. "But it seems that most of the people who remember the movie remember us. So, when the idea for a sequel came along, we got the call." (...)

Baldwin plays Linden, a guy who was drummed out of the NHL and now toils in the minor leagues. There, he encounters a group of career minor leaguers, including the Hansons, and eventually moves, with the team, from a second rate league and arenas to a posh private arena owned by an eccentric millionaire (Busey) who has purchased the team in order for it to play "Washington Generals" to his slick "Harlem Globetrotters-style" Omaha Icebreakers.

The film was originally destined for a straight-to-video release. However, Universal Pictures, which made the movie, recently began to have second thoughts. The popularity of the first film could see some theatrical release, particularly in hockey-mad Canada. The film’s director, Steve Boyum, says that he has always seen theatrical potential for the movie. "One of the requirements that the studio has of me is that I deliver a cut negative and an answer print, so we are finishing on film. You generally don’t finish on film with straight-to-video projects, but the further we go down the road to final production the more I see it as a good movie. I’m too old to delude myself about movies. It may not be the best movie ever made, but it’s better than most and I think the audience would really like to see it on the big screen. I think that in Canada alone there are enough fans of the original movie to justify its release."

(...) Boyum, a former athlete and stunt man (...) says (...) "I think my non-understanding of the game taught me some of the issues that kept (Americans) from being fans. I couldn’t follow the puck whenever I would try to watch it, and so I thought that it would be best to keep the camera on ice level so the audience would know where the puck was. I built a lot of my work around that dynamic and then I would bring faces into it." (...)

Boyum says that he wanted to make a darker film but says he was also aware that the key to making a sequel to the Hill film was to give the viewing audience the sense that they were in the stands. "I wanted to pay homage to him and his film but I also wanted to make this film a new experience for everyone," he says. (...) "Basically, the centerpiece of the story is following this former player (Baldwin) down a dark path and then he brings everyone in his wake along with him. In the end of the film he realizes what he has done and changes things. It is a classic drama, in that regard, but it is laced with broad comedy. I knew that each of the characters had to be quirkishly individual. I used some of Hill’s character development and then moved forward and we took some new steps with these characters and this story because all of these people are individuals. I also wanted to give the film a retro feel through the clothes of the characters and even some of the stadiums. I felt that would allow some imprint from the original film to be in the sequel."

(...) Dave Babych, a former player with Winnipeg and Vancouver, saw the original film while playing junior hockey in Portland, Oregon. Twenty four years later, he has a small role in the sequel. He says that while most observers thought the Hansons were violent, he felt that the style of hockey reflected the times. (...) Babych says that while he didn’t know much about acting professionally before he started working on the film, he has learned a lot from watching actors like Steven Baldwin and Callum Keith Rennie. (...) "So a lot of this stuff is goofy but most of it does happen. I think the credibility will come during the real hockey scenes, because in the movie hockey moves back to its roots. I think real fans will appreciate that more than the rest of the audience." (...) Although Joel Ransom, the film’s director of photography, was able to find ways of making the budget work for him, shooting a feature film in less than a month, for just $4 million is never going to be easy. "There were some days where we were averaging 70 setups a day," he says. "By contrast, when we were shooting The X-Files, we were doing 24 setups a day. There are occasions when you will do as few as 18 on some features." (...)


You can read the full article here.



Articles/interviews about Callum in it

Canadian, Content from Vancouver magazine, November, 2002 (extract)

He was also featured for two seasons on the earnest and much-loved television show Due South, and he’s been in decidedly less ambitious movies (Slapshot 2: Breaking the Ice, 2001).

From here.



Rennie's hot on ice, Edmonton Sun, March 22, 2001 (extract)

Callum Keith Rennie is now officially the coolest actor in Canada. Not because he grew up in Edmonton and still visits often, though that certainly has something to do with it. Not because he's starred in seminal Canadian indie flicks like Hard Core Logo and Last Night, or our country's most popular TV export, Due South. No, Rennie is officially the coolest actor in Canada because he's going to be in Slap Shot II. Yes, you read that right. A sequel to the greatest. Hockey film. Of. All. Time. "Yep," a clearly pleased Rennie said yesterday, on his cellphone after wrapping up a rehearsal for the shooting-in-Vancouver feature. "Monday was the first day on ice."

Given that the interview was supposed to be about Rennie's co-starring role in Suspicious River, screening tonight at the Local Heroes International Film festival, it was tough to be polite and not grill the actor mercilessly about this revelation. Rennie did say he's playing a character who's sort of an amalgamation of two characters from the 1977 original, which starred Paul Newman and introduced the world to the Hanson Brothers. "They originally wanted me to come in for some other part and I said, 'Look, I'm 40.' "

Like any red-blooded Canadian kid, Rennie played minor hockey while growing up in Edmonton. When working in Los Angeles, he also plays pickup games with other actors from Toronto and Vancouver. "As soon as I started spending time in L.A., I needed a lot of distraction," said Rennie. "When I'm down south, I just feel like I'm in a foreign country, and I'm away from friends and people who keep me connected and interested in what I do." No doubt, eh.


From here.




Links

There’s a Wikipedia entry dedicated to the movie.

Movie official site

Hanson brothers’ Official site

Jessica Steen’s site has some pics, some with Callum.

[livejournal.com profile] slidellra posted a snippet here.

[livejournal.com profile] slidellra made an arbor-day card for [livejournal.com profile] zabira "inspired" by Slap Shot 2.

[livejournal.com profile] c_regalis made a picspam about the Carpet-And-Drapes thing here.

[livejournal.com profile] bluebelle789 posted a Black Shirt picspam including pics of Palmberg (scroll down some, no hardship to go through the whole post) here.

[livejournal.com profile] callumvixen shares a YOU BET YOUR PALMBERG picspam here.




Availability

The movie is maybe the most easily available of Callum’s movies, here for instance.
The DVD includes a making of (Slapshot 2: Behind the Glass) with a brief glimpse of Callum, as Boyum’s directing the team.




In conclusion

I hated the movie the first time I saw it – I practically hid to watch it. I had so low expectations that I found re-watching less painful than I thought it would be. No opinion as to the hockey filming part. I understand it refers to “old time” hockey, more violent, less ‘clean’. Is it realistic, well done? No idea really (lack of reference, here). I haven’t watched the original Slap Shot, so I cannot compare either.
Without Baldwin’s poor acting and the Hanson brothers’ pranks, it wouldn’t be so awful. Jessica Steen (Maggie!) is good. Callum’s quite efficient in his sleazy asshole’s role. When he’s not around women, his character is OK. Mostly. If you don’t listen too closely to most of his lines. When he hasn’t got any painful lines to deliver, he stays in the background, generally slouching. And he manages to be scruffily pretty. As a bonus you get to see him naked in a shower, or playing some mean hockey. And falling. Watch out when you see one of the Chiefs falling on the ice, it’s probably Palmberg. He sort of acts as a comic relief for Baldwin (supposed)’s darker role. We can only wish it had been the reverse.



Thank you for reading and please let me know if you have anything to add.
I probably missed some piscpam? Anyone finds redeeming qualities to Palmberg? Do you prefer Callum playing a womanizing asshole, or a psycho killer? (tough one, since as a (psycho) killer he also often acts the womanizing asshole anyway)

ETA1: Polls won't work! You can take them in the next post (please do!)

ETA2: Added [livejournal.com profile] callumvixen's picspam and a trivia on Men With Brooms (thanks [livejournal.com profile] brooklinegirl!)

ETA3: Added [livejournal.com profile] slidellra's arbor-day card

ETA4: Added [livejournal.com profile] c_regalis' note to the CD6degrees section


Date: 2008-08-27 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
Ah, Palmberg. No redeeming qualities. Would looooooooooove to put duct tape over his mouth and have my way with him. [no surprise there]. That sex scene wigs me out. I don't know whether to laugh or cry or throw up. Sigh. And that whole scene in the kitchen, where he almost takes his pants off? Much better with the sound off [same goes for the whole movie].

Image (http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/icevixen/ckr/?action=view&current=SS0106.jpg)

Image (http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/icevixen/ckr/?action=view&current=SS1166.jpg)

Image (http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/icevixen/ckr/?action=view&current=SS1281.jpg)

Image (http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/icevixen/ckr/?action=view&current=SS1332.jpg)

Fantastic post! And fyi - i am not planning on EVER seeing SS3. EVER.

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Date: 2008-08-27 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brooklinegirl.livejournal.com
oh, what a tragically horrible movie! I am so impressed that you were able to write it up without hurting yourself!

Also, there's the fact (or rumor - I can't remember where the info came from. I hope someone else can), that due to Callum's decision to sign on to this movie, he was unable to be in Men With Brooms (Paul wanted him to play Peter Outerbridge's character, Lennox).
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Date: 2008-08-27 06:53 pm (UTC)
akamine_chan: Created by me; please don't take (Default)
From: [personal profile] akamine_chan
It was quiet pleasant to watch this movie on mute...*g*

Lovely post for a *cough*crappy*cough* movie...

Date: 2008-08-27 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hieronymousmosh.livejournal.com
You brave, brave little toaster! Great post, horrid movie *g*


(just a head's up: lj's being screwy and telling me "Sorry, you're not permitted to see this poll.")

Date: 2008-08-27 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrella-2008.livejournal.com
I think it was way better than CtC so I can live with it.
I could even laugh sometimes! And he looks so much better then the leading figure.
But now let's go on to another movie...

Date: 2008-08-27 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
i salute you for this! (also, omg BAD!)

When working in Los Angeles, he also plays pickup games with other actors from Toronto and Vancouver. "As soon as I started spending time in L.A., I needed a lot of distraction," said Rennie. "When I'm down south, I just feel like I'm in a foreign country, and I'm away from friends and people who keep me connected and interested in what I do."

awww. ♥

p.s. the poll hates me too! can't vote :(

Date: 2008-08-27 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
also, hee! this is my favourite review:

I was sent a copy of this film to review on DVD. For free. I still want my money back.

Date: 2008-08-27 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-regalis.livejournal.com
Will properly read and comment tomorrow, but. The polls seem to work for me? Kind of? Maybe some kind of LJ glitch? Weeeeiiiiird.

<3

Date: 2008-08-27 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-regalis.livejournal.com
ANYway, maybe you should edit them out of this post, with a link to the next one? Good idea, bad idea? Your decision, of course.

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Date: 2008-08-28 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com
Does he die?

Perhaps the answer should be: "Possibly of embarrassment" ;-)

because of production delays in Men With Brooms, he was unable to be in Paul Gross' movie. Paul Gross wanted him to play Peter Outerbridge's character, Lennox

This breaks my heart every time I think about it! I mean, I already slash Cutter/Lennox, and I think Peter Outerbridge did a fine job. But OMG, if it had been PG/CKR? I'd have written 50 Cutter/Lennox stories already! And that was lost because he was shooting SS2? *cries*

Date: 2008-08-28 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com
' But OMG, if it had been PG/CKR? I'd have written 50 Cutter/Lennox stories already! And that was lost because he was shooting SS2? *cries*'
I know what you mean.

'Perhaps the answer should be: 'Possibly of embarrassment' ;-)
'

I'm definitely putting that as my answer.

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Date: 2008-08-28 02:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bluebelle789.livejournal.com
Awesome post! I salute you for taking the Palmberg challenge. Hee!

This film really hits my "WHY CALLUM, WHYYYYYYYYY" button. I guess he had to eat and pay bills and stuff but still... *despairs*

Going to do the polls now. :)

Date: 2008-08-28 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brigantine.livejournal.com
*cackle* I've just checked Netflix to see if I might rent it, some day when I'm feeling courageous, or possibly masochistic, and just for kicks I checked the reviews. Among others equally negative, I found this:

STOP!!! Go back to the selection page and pick another movie!!!

Hee!

You are a brave, brave woman! *salutes you*


Date: 2008-08-28 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nos4a2no9.livejournal.com
Dude, you deserve a medal for walking us through the travesty that was SS2. Great post! I mean, I sort of feel like I've seen the whole movie, but in a non-painful way!

Date: 2008-08-28 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zabira.livejournal.com
oh, palmberg! strangely compelling in your horribleness. i actually admire CKR's commitment to this character. he could have been IN A COMA and no one would have noticed, and yet there he is, bringing it 127% like always. &hearts

also? [livejournal.com profile] slidellra made me an hilariously wrong arbor-day card (http://zabira.livejournal.com/58521.html) "inspired" by this film.

Date: 2008-08-29 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c-regalis.livejournal.com
Why, Callum, WHY? That's really The Question here, isn't it?

Re CD6degrees, David Paetkau, the annoying kid, is also playing the annoying emo army boy in Flashpoint. Just saying.

Keywords: Puck Bunnies

Jesus.

And was nominated in 8 categories, same awards (meant to "recognize creative achievement in programming that makes its debut on video.")

God god. What's WRONG with people?

It has a Baldwin brother in it for Pete’s sake.

Hee! <3

I was sent a copy of this film to review on DVD. For free. I still want my money back.

HEE! True, though.

I’m too old to delude myself about movies. It may not be the best movie ever made, but it’s better than most and I think the audience would really like to see it on the big screen.

Wow, these two sentences don't really go together, huh?

"They originally wanted me to come in for some other part and I said, 'Look, I'm 40.' "

So that means that they wanted him to play the annoying kid? I guess? Please, Callum, don't tell us that they offered you to play Linden and you let them take Baldwin instead. /c\

As a bonus you get to see him naked in a shower

Sadly, in this case, it's no bonus. It just makes thing worse. And, honest, at that point, who'd have thought that'd be possible?

In conclusion, you are very brave; great post about a horrible movie! <3

Date: 2008-08-29 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
<3

alos? i am kind of, um, drunk? so i have to tell you: i have now SEEN THIS FILM. and i only watched it for you. because i was going to write you SS2 fic. the muse, she is elusive though!

if i am still drunk tomorrow i will unlock my viewing post.

p.s. hI1 drunk! wheee!

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Date: 2008-11-22 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] roadrunner1896.livejournal.com
*hands you an apple*

Great job. Especially since you had to watch it several times. Is it really getting better on second viewing? Not that I am really tempted. ;)

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